Parental determination of their children's eternal status in
event of early demise vs. accountability pc's can't be like Gideon's dad, Joash said, "anyone
who defends Baal, let him be put to death by morning. If he is god, let Baal defend Himself." We are happily without
a defense for God when a murderer is consigned to torments awaiting final judgement and the lake burning with fire and brimstone(pcs
don't accept this, often are unaware wholly of it, and just say, "hell"). We are even happily content when the
one who rejects Jesus Christ as saviour is condemned to "hell" even though he is a more charitable guy than Hezbollah or king
Fahd. Yet, even though we strive to bring up our children to know the Lord and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit,
pc theology tells us all children are saved in event of untimely death or, even, the rapture(LaHaye, Trib. Force), via
which rapture many pcs do not even allow for believers in Christ to be saved via unless they are sufficiently good enough
at the time it occurs.
This may seem fair. It relies on human reasoning.
It is like no fault insurance. "My kid died young. Pastor says it is o.k., even though I hate God and kept my
kids from him. A pastor we got to do the funeral says, 'all kids go to heaven, they are not accountable.' The free pass
will help me from feeling so guilty and horrific that I can continue my anti-c status. Still, I kind of doubt what the
pastor said. Guilt for my child, now in torments, flares up often." And well it should.
Why should the outcome be the same for the two different types
of parents mentioned above. God would be unjust to give the anti-c's child the same salvation as my child with whom
I labor that Christ be formed in him. That God rejects this no-fault no-accountability accountability doctrine is evidenced
in scripture. It rises from an attempt to defend God not from those who would impune him from assigning people to "hell",
but rather from us c's (who assign to unbelievers spiritual wits they don't have, and so claim to defend God to them),who
have a problem with the Bible as it pertains to children and the dimwitted.
1 corinthians 7:14, to wit, By staying with the unbelieving
spouse and the children, the believing spouse sanctifies the unbelieving spouse, otherwise your children would be unclean!
Lost, on their way to torments, unless they sanctify their own selves by faith in Christ! We, as parents, determine
the eternal fate of our children until they determine it for themselves. But now the are holy!, and why?
Because of the action of the believing parent staying in the home with them. It has nothing to do with the child.
The holy by association saved child can help himself by trusting in christ for his/her own eternal salvation and sanctification
in like manner as the unclean doomed child may.
But no! pc theology also applies in reverse! Neither
category(categ.s not recognized by pcs), no, neither doomed child nor saved child, may help himself/herself
by trusting in Christ for his/her own eternal salvation. They are not accountable. So, by pun of nonreason, nonaccountable
can not count, that is, his decision for Christ, tender touching and sweet though it may be, does not change his
status nor guarantee his place in heaven(The promise of God is to you and your children Acts 2:39needs a disclaimer).
Nonaccountable or unaccountable is determined by different methods: an arbitrary age variously 10 or 12;
ability to discern right from wrong; ability to understand the spiritual phenomena associated with salvation(even though
no natural man at any age may dicern it without supernatural help). The pcs just conger this stuff up from thin
air.
Seemingly harmless conjecture believed as a doctrine now is the
church's own petard she is hoist upon. For why try to save those who can't be saved because they are not accountable.
Worse; how very much worse, the trust the child put in Christ is discounted, nay minimalized to triviality(just what does
a saved person who is taught to trivialise his/her salvation turn into, did you guess an ac/s with salvation?); and,
not just the childs trust. More importantly, the one who brings the child to saving faith in Christ is dismissed
as inconsequential; a babbler awasting his and the church's time and resources; because, the unaccountable child's
decision simply does not count. Better a millstone tied around our pc necks and to be tossed to the bottom of the
sea than to offend one of these little ones who believe in Me, said Jesus. The very prime object the
gospel is to be directed at is children. Jesus claims it as a gospel to be given to babes that is revealed only
to babes and hidden from the wise of this age that only babes can understand that we must become as a little child
to receive it at all, and, of these little children is the kingdom of God! Not only that but Jesus gives
praise to the father that the gospel is revealed to the babes and hidden from the wise.
So , if we are to put any credence in these words of Christ, then
we would focus all our efforts on saving children and the youngest of them. Based on Christ's words it is a no-brainer.
But the pc goes on blithely applying unnescessary brain to the simplest commands and winds up following Jesus own
proverb, "they observe the commands of men and ignore the commands of God"
This is going to be the result. A generation of anti-cs
acs and s's. Hey pcs fears it is upon us.
Rev.2:23 also supports the parental status determination
over pre age(point) of accountability with double death of the Thyatyran Jezebel's children, "I will kill her children
with death," as in Genesis 2:17 Hebr. transl. "dying you will die" 2Sam. 12:23 oft used to support age(point)
of accountability does the opposite because David is not only saved, but also as contrite and spiritual as he ever would be
at the demise of his son, see vs. 16-18. Acts 16:31 The strongest passage for parental status determining
the saved or lost status of children who have not yet made their own salvation decision(the name is too long, I know).
Believe on the lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household. nkjv.
Jonah 4:11 Why would god care about 120,000 unaccountables if their death
would mean their salvation and their life mean indoctrination into idolatry? No, It is because their parental
status meant they would go to torments, awaiting the lake burning with fire and brimstone. That is why God wanted Jonah
to save them along with their nation and culture.
What if this devil doctrine of pre age of accountability universal salvation
were debunked by cs(there were none, only pcs)? 1. The 1962 judicial decision to oust God from the public schools might
not have stood. The cs would have ammended the constitution knowing these were the crucial years in which to save their
children and grandchildren (unsavable by pre accountable age doctrine of the pcs). 2. Roe vs. wade would rightly
have been viewed as consigning millions of future unborn children to torments, awaiting the lake of burning with fire
and brimstone, consigned there by association with their lost and dying mothers. It woud not have been decided, or would
have been struck down by constitutional ammendment.
Hey pc! What are you going to do about this? Hey
pcs suggests a tactic.
We have to read the bible and apply it and read it some more.
Ask God for help and pray. And, don't stop checking into additions to heypc.com. Hey pcs! constantly edits and
improves the all articles.
Jesus said "many other things like this, they do." More to come
about those.
1CORINTHIANS 7:14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife,
and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
If one is holy, one is heaven bound at death or rapture. Conversely no
unclean thing goes up to heaven.
A saved parent in the home means a saved child at death or the rapture.
Sometimes the questions and issues we consider are not directly addressed
in scripture. Then we may try to deduce the answers based onlogic and God's grace or god's justice.
In this case we only need look at the scripture.
Some
Bible topics germain to Hey pcs! theme.
abortion Fearfully and wonderfully made I am, and that my soul knows right well
My lines were drawn, my DNA formed in God's mind, in the heart of the earth, in paradise precross, in heaven now.
The babe lept for joy in my womb at the sound of your steps my niece, no not niece. How am I so honored that the
mother of my Lord should come to me. (not future mother) (not future Lord, He is Lord now, 1st trimester) Thank
goodness Mary didn't murder the little Lord Jesus.
Murder the baby Jesus? Unthinkable?
Not to Herod! Politically Correct Herod, friend of Ceasars.
Murder any baby? Unthinkable?
Not to Barbara Boxer, nor to Hillary. Politically correct Sen.s
Hey pcs, wouldn't it be better to pay the mom's for their babies than to let them brutally murder them at an M.D. abortion
specialist. Where would we get the money? Assuming that $10,000 would pay for doctor/hospital and a wage for the
mother we have a $10,000 times 700,000 problem in the mountain to climb in the U.S.A. alone. That is only
7 billion dollars annually. Now we have to feed, clothe and educate them. On the very supercheap $10,000 annually
for 18 or so years to feed clothe and educate them calculates out to $190,000 disregarding the time value of money.
$10,000 more extortion money to planned parenthood M.D. abortion specialists to buy political acquiescence from Hillary, Barbara
and the Democratic party brings the per child price to an even $200,000. Our $7 billion jumps to $140 billion.
But, it is just $7 bil plus $3.5 Bil in year one, just $10.5 bil, year two $14 bil plus $10.5 billion is $24.5 billion. Year
4. $28 billion plus $10.5, $38.5 billion. year 18. $126 bil. plus $3.5 billion is $129.5 billion where it stabilizes. Divide
it by 700,000 annual murders and you have $185,000 per person to save them. Hey pcs forgot the $10,000 extortion money
to the M.D. abortion specialists to buy Hillary and B. Boxer and the dem. parties acquiescence. Oh forget it. Let
them learn to deliver babies. If we can't find $10.5 billion year one ascending to$129.5 billion after 18 years to save
$700,000 lives, we just aren't comparing things right. Just what are we spending our Fed. budget on.
and couldn't some of the states an municipalities help out? And what of Bill Gates/ Warren Buffet trusts
and such?
If we can't find public and charitable funding, maybe there is a free enterprise solution.
theology pcs put together doctrines themselves where the cs debated subjects comparing
applicable scriptures with scriptures.
Parental determination of their children's eternal status in event of early demise vs. accountability
pc's can't be like Gideon's dad, Joash said, "anyone who defends Baal, let him be put to death by morning. If he
is god, let Baal defend Himself." We are happily without a defense for God when a murderer is consigned to torments
awaiting final judgement and the lake burning with fire and brimstone(pcs don't accept this, often are unaware wholly of it,
and just say, "hell"). We are even happily content when the one who rejects Jesus Christ as saviour is condemned
to "hell" even though he is a more charitable guy than Hezbollah or king Fahd. Yet, even though we strive to bring
up our children to know the Lord and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, pc theology tells us all children are saved in
event of untimely death or, even, the rapture(LaHaye, Trib. Force), via which rapture many pcs do not even
allow for believers in Christ to be saved via unless they are sufficiently good enough at the time it occurs.
This may seem fair. It relies on human reasoning. It is like no fault insurance.
"My kid died young. Pastor says it is o.k., even though I hate God and kept my kids from him. A pastor we got
to do the funeral says, 'all kids go to heaven, they are not accountable.' The free pass will help me from feeling so guilty
and horrific that I can continue my anti-c status. Still, I kind of doubt what the pastor said. Guilt for
my child, now in torments, flares up often." And well it should.
Why should the outcome be the same for the two different types of parents mentioned above. God would be
unjust to give the anti-c's child the same salvation as my child with whom I labor that Christ be formed in him. That
God rejects this no-fault no-accountability accountability doctrine is evidenced in scripture. It rises from an attempt
to defend God not from those who would impune him from assigning people to "hell", but rather from us c's (who assign to unbelievers
spiritual wits they don't have, and so claim to defend God to them),who have a problem with the Bible as it pertains to children
and the dimwitted.
1 corinthians 7:14, to wit, By staying with the unbelieving spouse and the children, the believing spouse
sanctifies the unbelieving spouse, otherwise your children would be unclean! Lost, on their way to torments, unless
they sanctify their own selves by faith in Christ! We, as parents, determine the eternal fate of our children until
they determine it for themselves. But now the are holy!, and why? Because of the action of the
believing parent staying in the home with them. It has nothing to do with the child. The holy by association saved
child can help himself by trusting in christ for his/her own eternal salvation and sanctification in like manner as the unclean
doomed child may.
But no! pc theology also applies in reverse! Neither category(categ.s not recognized by pcs), no,
neither doomed child nor saved child, may help himself/herself by trusting in Christ for his/her own eternal
salvation. They are not accountable. So, by pun of nonreason, nonaccountable can not count, that is, his decision
for Christ, tender touching and sweet though it may be, does not change his status nor guarantee his place in heaven(The
promise of God is to you and your children Acts 2:39needs a disclaimer). Nonaccountable or unaccountable is determined
by different methods: an arbitrary age variously 10 or 12; ability to discern right from wrong; ability
to understand the spiritual phenomena associated with salvation(even though no natural man at any age may dicern it without
supernatural help). The pcs just conger this stuff up from thin air.
Seemingly harmless conjecture believed as a doctrine now is the church's own petard she is hoist upon.
For why try to save those who can't be saved because they are not accountable. Worse; how very much worse, the trust
the child put in Christ is discounted, nay minimalized to triviality(just what does a saved person who is taught to trivialise
his/her salvation turn into, did you guess an ac/s with salvation?); and, not just the childs trust. More importantly,
the one who brings the child to saving faith in Christ is dismissed as inconsequential; a babbler awasting his and the
church's time and resources; because, the unaccountable child's decision simply does not count. Better a
millstone tied around our pc necks and to be tossed to the bottom of the sea than to offend one of these little
ones who believe in Me, said Jesus. The very prime object the gospel is to be directed at is children. Jesus
claims it as a gospel to be given to babes that is revealed only to babes and hidden from the wise of this age that only babes
can understand that we must become as a little child to receive it at all, and, of these little children
is the kingdom of God! Not only that but Jesus gives praise to the father that the gospel is revealed to the babes and
hidden from the wise.
So , if we are to put any credence in these words of Christ, then we would focus all our efforts on saving children
and the youngest of them. Based on Christ's words it is a no-brainer. But the pc goes on blithely
applying unnescessary brain to the simplest commands and winds up following Jesus own proverb, "they observe the commands
of men and ignore the commands of God"
This is going to be the result. A generation of anti-cs acs and s's. Hey pcs fears it is upon us.
Rev.2:23 also supports the parental status determination over pre age(point) of accountability with double death
of the Thyatyran Jezebel's children, "I will kill her children with death," as in Genesis 2:17 Hebr. transl. "dying
you will die" 2Sam. 12:23 oft used to support age(point) of accountability does the opposite because David is
not only saved, but also as contrite and spiritual as he ever would be at the demise of his son, see vs. 16-18. Acts
16:31 The strongest passage for parental status determining the saved or lost status of children who have not
yet made their own salvation decision(the name is too long, I know). Believe on the lord Jesus Christ, and
you will be saved, you and your household. nkjv.
Jonah 4:11 Why would god care about 120,000 unaccountables if their death would mean their salvation and their life mean
indoctrination into idolatry? No, It is because their parental status meant they would go to torments, awaiting
the lake burning with fire and brimstone. That is why God wanted Jonah to save them along with their nation and
culture.
What if this devil doctrine of pre age of accountability universal salvation were debunked by cs(there were none, only
pcs)? 1. The 1962 judicial decision to oust God from the public schools might not have stood. The cs
would have ammended the constitution knowing these were the crucial years in which to save their children and grandchildren
(unsavable by pre accountable age doctrine of the pcs). 2. Roe vs. wade would rightly have been viewed as consigning
millions of future unborn children to torments, awaiting the lake of burning with fire and brimstone, consigned there
by association with their lost and dying mothers. It woud not have been decided, or would have been struck down by constitutional
ammendment.
Hey pc! What are you going to do about this? Hey pcs suggests a tactic.
We have to read the bible and apply it and read it some more. Ask God for help and pray. And, don't
stop checking into additions to heypc.com. Hey pcs! constantly edits and improves the all articles.
Jesus said "many other things like this, they do." More to come about those.
1CORINTHIANS 7:14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband:
else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
If one is holy, one is heaven bound at death or rapture. Conversely no unclean thing goes up to heaven.
A saved parent in the home means a saved child at death or the rapture.
Sometimes the questions and issues we consider are not directly addressed in scripture. Then we may try to deduce the answers
based onlogic and God's grace or god's justice.
In this case we only need look at the scripture.
